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Irwin 32 citation

The irwin 32 citation is a 32.33ft masthead sloop designed by ted irwin and built in fiberglass by irwin yachts since 1985..

The Irwin 32 citation is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser. The fuel capacity is originally small. There is a very short water supply range.

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IRWIN 32 Detailed Review

If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of IRWIN 32. Built by Irwin Yachts and designed by Ted Irwin, the boat was first built in 1970. It has a hull type of Keel/Cbrd. and LOA is 9.75. Its sail area/displacement ratio 15.69. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by Universal, runs on Gas.

IRWIN 32 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about IRWIN 32 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs.

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Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, auxillary power tank, contributions, who designed the irwin 32.

IRWIN 32 was designed by Ted Irwin.

Who builds IRWIN 32?

IRWIN 32 is built by Irwin Yachts.

When was IRWIN 32 first built?

IRWIN 32 was first built in 1970.

How long is IRWIN 32?

IRWIN 32 is 7.62 m in length.

What is mast height on IRWIN 32?

IRWIN 32 has a mast height of 10.52 m.

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Irwin citation 32

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• Start date Aug 25, 2016
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Hey Guys, New to this site. I'm having a hard time finding any feedback on the citation 32. any info would be great. It's a 1987. sailboat data says it has 6ft draft but owner says it's 4.3 are there two draft sizes. Sailing qualities and thanksinfo would be great.  

I delivered a 38 a few months ago, but can't help you with the 32. My principal (and almost only) reservation about the boat was that it had an offset companionway.  

The 32 is not off set. not much talk about these.. Found favorable posts about handling . Found one post about a 34 with 4.3 keel so I guess this info is correct for the 32. Thanks for the reply.  

Have you tried sailboatdata.com for info on measurements, etc.?  

Yes. Said it was a 6 ft draft.No other info. was told it was 4.3  

Sorry, missed that in the original post. Sailboatdata.com will often make it clear if a boat came in two different drafts, but I can't guarantee that it is complete. Don't know if there are any Irwin associations, but you might want to google search for that, and check Facebook for an Irwin group. For just the question of draft, find an experienced, been-around-a-long-time broker and ask him if he knows whether the boat came in two drafts that year. Or, ask the owner if you can be present the next time the hull is cleaned. Drop a sounding line over the side and ask the diver to read off the draft.  

thanks for the response. Ill do that  

Well SF, As far as the Keel is concerned, there is a note at the bottom of the specs page on sailboat data that shows a shoal draft option. My bad. thanks for your help. Just wish I could find some owners comments.  

Glad you found at least part of what you wanted. Now for the (possibly) bad news. Regardless of what the website says the shoal draft is, you need to check it yourself. My shoal draft H31 is supposed to draw 4 feet. While it was on the hard last year, I measured it at about 4' 9". Haven't confirmed that in the water due to visibility issues, but she sits on her lines, so I suspect it is close. Make sure you verify what you draw.  

Flyflicker, I have been spending some time researching the Irwin Citation 31 lately as a 1985 31 recently caught my attention and I stumbled on the 32 as well in the process. It appears the 32 started production in 1986 and went out of production soon afterwards when Irwin went kaput (1987?). Info and sales info can be found here: http://www.irwinyachts.com/ Anyway, the 31 came with a fin of 6', shoal draft of 4', and a shoaldraft/centerboard combo model of 4' board up/8.2' board down. I am not 100% sure (just about 90%) that the differences between the 32 and the 31 are: - the 32 has a new fold down door with a walk-through transom where the 31 did not - the 32 dropped the centerboard keel and kept the shaoldraft and the fin - the 32 adopted the new 2GM20 (18HP) Yanmar (the 31 has the older 2GM (13HP) Other than that as far as I can tell the two boats are identical, same interior layout and appointments, same rig and sail plan, and the sailing performance is similar. I really like the 31 but I am hesitant on the 2GM being enough to move the boat up rivers against the current. The 2GM seems a bit weak for this size boat as a cruiser...maybe a day sailor. The 2GM20 in the 32 is an improvement but the Catalina 30 from this same timeframe has a 27HP 3-cylinder. I hope all this helps!  

thanks a bunch that does help. I guess the fact that it was only made for a couple years is why I can't find very many boat owners. Again for your response  

Pretty sure Good Old Boat had a review of the Irwin 32. A friend had one for sale so I was looking for info on and found the review. Did a search and found they did an Irwin Citation 31 in Jan/Feb 2007 issue. Might that be close enough? You can order back issues.  

Okay thanks Ward. Yeah they're tough I was trying to pull it up but they want me to pay $8 to download the whole magazine lol I appreciate the heads-up  

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A classic 70's vintage monohull designed by Ted Irwin that has kept her appeal over the years with good maintanence and an Awlgripped hull.  Her centerboard makes her ideal for tucking into sheltered anchorages while coastal cruising or island hopping in the Bahamas.  She has an upgraded Yanmar 3 cylinder fresh water cooled engine, pedestal steering w/auto pilot, roller furling head sail and more.  Galley includes 12V Refrigeration and Microwave Oven.  Very clean inside and out.

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LOA: 32 feet

LWL: 25 feet

BEAM: 9 feet 8 inches

DRAFT: 3 feet 6 inches w/centerboard up

DRAFT:  7 feet 10 inches w/centerboard down

Displacement: 11,500 lbs

Ballast:  5,200 lbs

One stateroom quarter berth aft to port sleeps two and Vberth another two.  Dinette sleeps 1 and settee sleeps 1.  Galley is to starboard as you step down the companionway. Head w/manual pump toilet, stainless sink w/cold pressure water and shower is on portside.

Yanmar 3GM Diesel Fresh Water Cooled

Cruise Speed: 7 knots at 3000 rpm

FUEL: 20 gallons

WATER: 75 gallons

Galley is to starboard with 12V refrigeration, microwave oven, drawer and sink with cold pressurized water.

Cruise equipped with manual boom vang, wire standing rigging, Hood roller furling w/120% and spare 135% head sail and main sail in Mack Pack cover.  Lewmar winches.

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Irwin Citation 34

A mainstream coastal cruiser from an economy builder still managing to survive..

Irwin Yachts has been in operation for 27 years, one of the true old-timers in the fiberglass sail boat business. When we talked to them regarding the Irwin 34, they had just weathered the roughest storm of their history, having settled with their creditors and recovered from Chapter 11, when many other companies in similar situations were folding.

Irwin’s recovery was marked by the start of a new production 50-foot cruiser. The new boat, like all the boats throughout the company’s history, was designed by Ted Irwin, who has served continuously as CEO of the company as well as chief designer. In this respect, Irwin is like Catalina Yachts, whose CEO and chief designer Frank Butler is second only to Irwin in business longevity.

Like Catalina, Irwin has generally aimed at the economy end of the sailboat spectrum. However, unlike Catalina, Irwin Yachts has built a great variety of sailboats, 47 different models before their latest 50-footer—all sailboats, all larger than 20′, from all-out race machines to full-tilt cruisers. Among American companies, only Pearson comes close to Irwin in the variety of cruising sailboats produced over the last quarter of a century.

The Irwin 34 is in many respects a typical Irwin boat. It was originally called the “Citation 34,” which was meant to indicate that it was more of a plush cruiser than the race-oriented Irwins at the time, but more of a racer than the larger cruisers.

According to the company, 305 Irwin 34s were built in the production run, from 1978 to 1985, a moderate but successful model for the era. Near the end of its production, the boat was advertised as the Irwin 34 rather than the Citation 34. There were no major changes in the boat from beginning to end, just the details and equipment that are typical of any long production run.

Owners report mixed feelings in dealing with the company. Irwin dealers got good marks, though there are a few complaints about “incompetents and crooks.” The main objection over the years has been about slow response from the company, especially regarding warranty claims on new boats and getting basic information on older models. However, long term owners report that the company seems to have ups and downs in customer service.

Design and Construction

In design, the 34 looks like a cross between the old 1960s beamy CCA centerboarder and the mid-70s IOR racer, a combination that results in a moderate design and hence a healthy coastal cruiser. The bow has a distinctive concave curve, typical of many Irwin designs, and a flattish sheer, with a molded-in cove stripe to make the sheerline appear a bit higher in the bow. The stern sections have the peculiar tuckup typical of IOR boats of the era. The trunk cabin is traditional looking and fairly low. Overall, we think the boat is an attractive example of the modern racercruiser.

Underwater, the hull is beamy and saucer shaped. The centerline of the hull aft of the keel forms a shallow fence which runs back to form a skeg in front of the spade rudder. Though the boat was available with a deep fin keel, drawing 5′ 4″, the centerboard model was far more popular. Company literatureadvertises a shoal draft keel as standard, with the fin and centerboard as options, but we have never seen a shoal-draft model and none of the owners in our surveys had the shoal-draft version. Brochures show the shallow-draft keel as identical in outline to the centerboard model but with no board installed.

The centerboard lifts into a shallow stub keel, and the pennant is a Dacron rope; it runs to the deck through a tube which forms a grab rail at the front edge of the galley. We examined three used 34s, and the two centerboard models each had badly chafed centerboard pennants needing replacement.

Other than the chafe problem, the centerboard version of the boat is probably to be preferred if you have a choice. Unlike some boats which are designed for a fin and compromised with a centerboard, the hull shape looks well matched to the board, and few designers have as much experience with centerboards as Ted Irwin.

The hull is a conventional lay-up of mat and woven roving. The deck is a conventional balsa core sandwich.

The three boats we examined all had decent gelcoat and exterior finish, but owners in our surveys report an inordinate incidence of gelcoat problems, including patches coming off, large voids, and excessive crazing. One boat we looked at had quite a few repaired spots in the deck molding, and we suspect most of the gelcoat problems were new boat problems. Once fixed, they should not be a major concern for the used boat buyer.

With regard to other elements of construction, quality is on the poor side. In fact, the three boats we examined were serious contenders in our own used-boat search but were finally rejected because we didn’t like many details of the way the boats were built. For example, two of the boats we looked at clearly had a history of deck leaks at the portlights and a variety of fittings. The interior is generally well finished with teak-faced plywood and an interior liner, but the ceiling and liner made it very difficult to get at the inside of the hull and deck to trace or fix the leaks. It was clear that the previous owners had little luck in stopping the leaks. Further, the hull-to-deck joint is fastened with sheet metal screws rather than bolts. The screws are installed both vertically, from the top of the aluminum toe rail, and horizontally, from the side of the toe rail. Through-bolting is preferable.

More importantly, on the boat we were most interested in, it was evident that the hull-to-deck joint was leaking, at best a nuisance, at worst a major repair job. Though we couldn’t examine most of the joint because of the interior joinerwork, we did find one spot where the deck molding actually did not overlap the hull flange. You could see the underside of the toerail from inside the boat.

On one boat, the deck cleats were fastened only with sheet metal screws, and on all the boats, the bow and stern pulpits were only screwed down rather than through-bolted.

There were several details—cheap through-hull valves, no washers on chainplate bolts—which were relatively easy to correct, but they put us off the boat. Obviously, Irwin believes these construction details are adequate, but we consider them very minimal or problematic—something we would feel compelled to correct.

In contrast to the details, the basic fiberglass work seemed solid and good on all the boats we examined.

The interior of the 34 is generally well done, good production-line work with teak veneer and plastic. Some of the details of the cabinetry were a little sloppy on the boats we examined, but all in all the interior of the boat, when new, was undoubtedly a strong selling point.

There are three good berths—a V-berth double and a quarter berth. The quarter berth will be just a little tight, especially at the foot, for a large, tall man. The settee is usable as a single berth (it’s a very comfortable settee), and the dinette opposite is convertible to a small double. The head is of good size, and the galley is well arranged in a sort of wraparound U. There’s a good electrical panel at the aft side of the galley. The nav station is set at an angle, with the table a bit small though adequate.

The Irwin 34 came with seven opening ports as well as forward and midship hatches, so ventilation should be good.

Stowage below is minimal, since tankage occupies space below the berths—a shortcoming of the modern hull shape. Tankage is adequate on the boat—30 gallons fuel, 80 gallons water, and a big holding tank for the head—a rarity on production boats of this size.

There’s little bilge in the boat, which can cause problems when you take water inside the hull. This showed up in the discolored and delaminated teak/holly plywood on the cabin sole of two of the boats at which we looked.

Original standard equipment is quite complete and modern—hot/cold pressure water, shower, propane stove, 4″ cushions, AC and DC electrical systems, and so on, meaning that little upgrading should be necessary, assuming the boat has been well kept.

Overall, the interior seems very desirable for a couple cruising or a couple with one or two children. There are no privacy doors for the forward cabin, so two couples will have to be (or become) intimate while cruising.

The deck is conventional but well done for working the boat. There’s a deck-opening anchor locker forward, wide side decks, and a good big cockpit with a small ice/beer locker, two lazarettes, and a propane tank locker.

A wheel was standard on the boat. A nice feature is that a portion of the cockpit sole is removable for superior engine access, the best we have seen on a boat this size. Cockpit drains are also large, another rarity on production boats.

The companionway opening is large, with just a small lip/step above the cockpit sole. While not desirable in an offshore boat, this is okay in a coastal cruiser and makes for easy access to the interior. Most owners will want to arrange a way to secure the lowest companionway drop board, so it can be left in place during rough conditions.

The mainsheet traveler is on the cabin top, just ahead of the companionway. While this is a convenient location, the boats we looked at had exceptionally unsightly dodgers because the multi-part mainsheet was somewhat in the way.

Performance

The boat came with a Yanmar 15, which generally gets good reports from owners, though some think the boat is a bit underpowered. A 20-hp Yanmar was available as an option, and this would be desirable if a buyer were choosing between otherwise similar boats; the 20-hp model would be smoother running as well as more powerful.

The boat we sailed handled adequately under power, though some owners report it difficult to back up straight. Most of the 34s had solid props, and the performance-oriented sailor will want to upgrade to a folding or feathering prop so the boat’s sailing ability isn’t hurt.

The boat has a big rig, well balanced between mainsail and jib, and as you can expect from Ted Irwin’s design board, it is a good sailing boat. With a PHRF rating around 160, it is slightly slower than other cruiser/racers of that era, like the C & C 34, but it will make good passages, especially off the wind.

Many owners report that they consider the boat quite tender, especially the centerboard model, but we found the boat to be reasonably stiff, with lots of initial stability from the beamy hull. We didn’t sail the boat in heavy air, but we suspect an early reef would be desirable. Cruisers will find that it works well to sail the boat under roller-furling jib alone.

Early boats may have the DynaFurl roller which came as an option from Irwin, and buyers may want to factor in a replacement in their price figuring. The boats are generally of an age where the original sails are still aboard and, for all practical purposes, best used as drop cloths. Though the boat was advertised as a “club racer,” we saw no used 34s with spinnakers or any spinnaker gear, so a chute and related gear may also have to be purchased to complete a sail inventory.

Standard winches on the boat were minimal, and an upgrade will be desirable if the original owner didn’t buy the optional package when the boat was new.

The rig is adequate, the only problem reported by owners being paint problems on the mast, perhaps from a poor priming job on the aluminum. The mast of one boat we looked at had been re-painted.

Conclusions

It is an excellent design, a wholesome all-around racer/cruiser with shallow draft that would serve a family’s needs as a coastal cruiser, at a reasonable cost.

Unfortunately, the Irwin 34 suffers from some corner-cutting: details of construction which are cheap or shoddy, such as using only screws to secure the hull-to-deck joint.

Realistically, those details should not hamper the boat’s use in normal conditions as a coastal cruiser, but are substandard compared to many other boats available. We generally would not recommend the boat to anyone contemplating ocean passages, unless considerable basic upgrading had been completed.

But for a coastal cruiser, for an owner who likes to do some upgrading, the boat is a handsome, well thought-out design, with a good interior, well equipped. In today’s market, it offers a lot of basic boat, especially if bought at the right price.

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Endeavour 32

Endeavour 32 is a 31 ′ 11 ″ / 9.8 m monohull sailboat designed by Ted Irwin and built by Endeavour Yacht Corp. between 1976 and 1982.

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Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

The ENDEAVOUR 32 was the first boat from Endeavour and was actually the same basic hull as the earlier IRWIN 32 with modifications by Dennis Robbins, in-house designer for Endeavour at this time. Other changes to the design (by Bob Johnson?) were made in 1980. Earlier ENDEAVOUR 32’s could be purchased with a fin keel or keel-centerboard (like the IRWIN). By 1979, both the deep fin keel and keel-centerboard versions had been dropped in favor of a shallower draft, fixed keel model. Shown here is the later version. See ENDEAVOUR 32 CB for more details.

Keel/CB version: Draft BD: 7.83’ Draft BU: 3.5’ Shoal draft fixed keel: 3.16’

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