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Opinions on Bluewater Yachts

  • Thread starter roeloffs
  • Start date Jan 28, 2015
  • Jan 28, 2015

I have a nordhavn N46 and it is for sale. This decision came after realizing that our blue water days are over mainly due to age pure and simple. Now our boating days are not over and a few years on the great loop sound very appealing. I am looking at 51/52 foot Bluewater Yachts, diesel 1995 or newer. We would want more outdoor entertaining space than many double or triple cabins allow. Does anyone have opinions on the Bluewater yachts? Does anyone have a better suggestion with regard to a different brand ? Mainly I will need a max of 30 inch draft, 17 feet air draft reduceable to 15 feet. Thanks for any help on these issues. Kurt  

  • Jan 29, 2015

pilothouse king

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You might want to pay attention to their engine locations and fuel tanks. I would instead put my attention toward an all aluminum Lazy Days that were built in Buford Georgia. There's many sitting on Lake Lanier. They even built an ocean going version with a high bow. One actually finished the Miami -Nassau race in the 60s.. It came across the finish line with a party on the roof BBQing. I used to have a 8x10 photo, but gave it to the buyer of a sistership, which is now back up in Georgia. I also had factory photos of a Bluewater running back and forth across the Potato Patch in heavy seas. A partner of mine told me he was given a seatrial off Hatteras after a hurricane in a Bluewater. He was impressed with the ride. Many had Coast Guard certication for x amount of miles offshore. Also gave those to a buyer who uses her in river charters on the St. Johns in Jax. The construction issues of the Bluewaters came up later in their lives.  

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Bluewater boats are rather common in the Upper Midwest. They are built in Mora MN, as I recall, is a northern suburb of Minneapolis. They are impressively styled but in my opinion are not more than a stylish houseboat. Some are styled to be very impressive to the not very astute consumer to look like a mega yacht but at the end of the day, end up being houseboats. most are gas engine powered, the owners not realizing the value of diesel, and not ever going to get to the usage level where a diesel(s) make sense. They are not a boat that typically holds its value 20 years after they are built. I am somewhat hesitant to post this as I don't want to offend blue water owners but my honest view of them is a boat for not very astute yacht wannabe's. When they are newish they are very impressive boats for the money but they don't age well.  

roeloffs said: I have a nordhavn N46 and it is for sale. This decision came after realizing that our blue water days are over mainly due to age pure and simple. Now our boating days are not over and a few years on the great loop sound very appealing. I am looking at 51/52 foot Bluewater Yachts, diesel 1995 or newer. We would want more outdoor entertaining space than many double or triple cabins allow. Does anyone have opinions on the Bluewater yachts? Does anyone have a better suggestion with regard to a different brand ? Mainly I will need a max of 30 inch draft, 17 feet air draft reduceable to 15 feet. Thanks for any help on these issues. Kurt Click to expand...

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Greetings, Boat options aside...WELCOME ABOARD.  

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I do believe Bluewater did go out of business a few years ago. There's a short discussion on Hull Truth about it that I think I started. We used to live near Mora. Last I checked their website still existed but had frozen since about 2009. That said, there are a couple of them in our marina (South Dakota, Missouri River). One of them in particular called the Duchess is one of the nicest boats in the marina in my opinion (newer model). Yeah, I wouldn't cross the Atlantic in it, but it's much more capable and seaworthy than a typical houseboat box on the water. The newer models (2000's before they shut down) are a nicely designed hybrid between the comforts and space of a houseboat and a "real" boat you'd actually motor somewhere. Build quality looks pretty good to me. My wife loves the Duchess, if we weren't going to do the Loop someday or cross the Great Lakes, we would have seriously considered buying one.  

Following the houseboat theme Harbor Master made a few coastal models with elevated bows. May want to put that make into the Yachtworld search engine and see what you think. Some of them where diesel powered as some of the Bluewater brand are too. Good luck in your search.  

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My experience has not been favorable The few I've worked on had serious deck delamination issues from the fly bridge back. They are not west coast capable coastal cruisers. Window leaks, deck delamination, wiring issues, dry rot. They do entertain a lot of people however. They are not even in the same league with a Bayliner 4788 which entertains as many and is coastal capable. My dockside neighbor owned a Blue water, there is no direct comparison between the two. If I was in the market for a house boat that is what I would get, a good quality aluminum houseboat.  

That could very well be true. The fresh water environment around here is pretty gentle on boats, relatively speaking. Our zincs and bottom jobs last for years, at the end of the season we can usually hose off a thin layer of hull slime and we're done. I'd agree with you on the 4788 too, not a close call in my mind, as nice as that Bluewater may be. The Bayliner is more boat than houseboat if we're talking about hybrids.  

If you visit the St Louis, Nashville or Louisville boat shows the houseboat of your dreams will show up. Some of them are amazing.  

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You may want to take a look at Pluckebaum. They make some pretty substantial diesel powered house boats. Pluckebaum Coastal Yacht  

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I had a rather lengthy discussion with a former Bluewater owner. I too was looking at them initially and was impressed with the comfortable layout. I mentioned that we were looking for something to live aboard full time, and travel to the Bahamas, T&C, and Eastern Caribbean. This lady mentioned that she and her husband owned one for about 6 years, and had plans for doing the Great Loop in it. They live here in Ft. Myers so we were both familiar with the waters around here. She mentioned to me that it was NOT a boat to take out in anything over 4' seas. She said it was a very rough ride - due to the extremely shallow draft, that it would really roll around. They ended up selling it - it took them nearly 3 years to sell it - and said that they got lucky as someone from China came over, wrote them a check and bought it (she laughed and said "yes, the check did clear the bank!"). She said that it was a nice comfortable floating condo, but that it really was a houseboat that looked like a yacht.  

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How is the quality of Bluewater boats?

  • Thread starter wink21
  • Start date Sep 11, 2009
  • Sep 11, 2009

So far, I've walked away from a couple of boats based on input from the forum and lost out on a couple of good ones that were snapped up quick. I just came across this one http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/boa/1369163351.html In all of my boat reading in past couple of months, I have not come across Bluewater. Does anyone know about these boats? It has one of the motors that has been highly recommended on the form - the 3L/130HP Mercruiser Any input or advice on this would be appreciated. I simply don't want to buy a boat with a bad trackrecord or that has a hard time with finding parts. Thanks Scott  

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Re: How is the quality of Bluewater boats? Haven't heard anything particular bad about them. I don't believe they are in business any longer. That one has a reliable powerplant which should be good power in that sized boat and the price is certainly right. Check carefully for rot in the deck and transom. Could be a real nice find.  

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Re: How is the quality of Bluewater boats? My grandfather still to this day cruises his 1967 Blue Water all over the place, it is in great condition and has had no major problem with more that 3000 hours on it. They are like any other boat, if you take care of it it will last a lifetime.  

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  • Sep 12, 2009

Re: How is the quality of Bluewater boats? Blue Water is now owned by Kal Kustom boats, same folks that own Reinell. The two come off their plant in Oregon, and are still in business. The current boats usually share the same hulls at the Reinell boats, or use older molds. I see a number of Blue Water boats here in the NW. I'm not sure when they were bought by Kal Kustom.  

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Who would you put on your short list of Bluewater boats still being manufactured today? Here is some general criteria: protected rudder, lead keel, good tankage, two double berths (not counting settee), less than 50 feet. The manufacture should also have a decent dealer in the US. Now the catch. It doesn't have to be cheap, but it does have to be a good value. Luxury yachts need not apply!!! Above all "It needs to be a good family boat for a couple and two kids". Just to get things going I will throw out Passport, Cabo rico, Island Packet, tartan, Pacific seacraft???, gozzard. What do you think?  

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Hallberg Rassy, Valiant and Nauticat come to mind. While these boats are a bit on the higher price side, I wouldn't call them luxury...not like the Moodys or Swans. Amel is also out there... but ugly IMHO.  

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I would also say Caliber yachts would fit your bill. Not sure why you excluded Island Packet, Cabo Rico and Passport other than their tankage for which than I would agree. Not sure why boat manufactures would not figure out how to put more fuel on the boat. 500 miles motor-sailing is a must in my opinion if bluewater cruising. I cannot count that high on how many cruiser logs I have read where they run out of fuel due to wind dies or wind on the nose and are forced to motor-sail. It seems like 20-35% of bluewater cruising is motor-sailing. Carrying fuel Jerry cans on deck is not my thing. I like a clean deck. Now for the more exotic boat, I would drool over a Vagabound 47'. Great family boat. Plus it looks soo cool. Can one say "Argggg matie"! Here is there link! http://www.contemporaryyachts.com/default.htm  

Melrna said: I would also say Caliber yachts would fit your bill. Not sure why you excluded Island Packet, Cabo Rico and Passport other than their tankage for which than I would agree. QUOTE] Click to expand...

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Does Oyster qualify? The ones at our marina sure look like they can easily cross oceans in both luxurious comfort and style.  

Yea they qualify.  

Oyster is just what I am not looking for. While they are very nice, I was looking for a family cruiser not a luxury yacht. Valient is a good out though.  

Unless I am mistaken contest is also more of a luxury yacht. I guess I should have put in a price range of 500k or less. Not a million.  

Contest is a yacht and reasonably well appointed. But if you look at older models they are pretty basic. What is considered luxurious? Which is an interesting question. Some might say roller furling is a luxury... or self tailing winches... or an electric windlass... or hot water. I consider those necessities for cruising and I could go on. jef sv shiva  

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If you're looking at $500k, you'll have a hard time keeping Passport and Cabo Rico on the list. You can't forget about Tayana either. Melrna - why do you think there is a problem with tankage on Passports? I carry 115 gals of fuel and 125 gals of water. I'd say that's pretty decent for a 40 foot 50hp iron genny bluewater boat.  

My three would be Cabo Rico, Passport, and Tayana.  

For a 33 footer, I've always been impressed by the tankage on my boat - 160 gals of diesel, split in two tanks, providing 800 nm motoring range, and a 140 gal water tank. We have no intentions of making any ocean passages over 200 nm though - coastal cruising fills our needs just fine. It's just comforting knowing that structurally, it can take a licking.  

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TrueBlue said: For a 33 footer, I've always been impressed by the tankage on my boat - 160 gals of diesel, split in two tanks, providing 800 nm motoring range, and a 140 gal water tank. Click to expand...

TrueBlue, That is impressive tankage. My Tayana has 120 gallons of fuel and 150 of water.  

Guess the reason why some here call her "a tub with sails" is for accommodating all the stuff she comes with. (g)  

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Sorry about putting Passports on my fuel list. The Passport boats are #3 on my list of bluewater boats I would buy. I was having a senior moment.  

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You are not allowed to have a senior moment, you are much to young. I'm 88 and therefore am permitted senior moments.  

You might check out this builder http://www.eastsail.com/index.html Sometimes I just go to his site and dream..  

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Jom's... You don't have to be Danish to like najads...great boats but unfortunately quit pricey here in the states due to the Euro/Dollar theses days. I don't like that Nordborg at all from what i can see for cruising blue water but I do like the "alternative fuel" auxillary power on that last one! (g)  

camaraderie said: I don't like that Nordborg at all from what i can see for cruising blue water but I do like the "alternative fuel" auxillary power on that last one! (g) Click to expand...

Cam, How does Camaraderie behave in heavy weather, and what's her tankage?  

Oh...her tankage is 100 fuel and 200 water. As to heavy weather, she just lays over a bit and cuts through the waves with an easy motion and no pounding...I've never had a boat anything like her at sea which is why we felt so safe on her. It would really take tropical storm type winds for me to start to get nervous on her...and a lot more for that nervousness to be justified! She is good to windward and on all points of sail thanks to Mr. Perry, and her only real weakness is that she really needs a bit of wind to get going. If I weren't selling her I probably would have bought an Asymmetric for lighter conditions (or a mizzen stay sail if I wanted to be a bit saltier!)  

Are there any big problems with Hans Christians? I don't see them on the list here, but I would put them in as my vote--so far, that is what Mr. E and I are leaning towards when we get the "big boat" (in the far off future)...  

DJ...with several different build locations and variable quality at times, HC has not been the most stable builder around but HC's CAN be great bluewater boats and belong on the list but you have to be careful on survey and love to varnish!  

On the Tiawanese boats, watch the teak decks... typically fastened right through the top layer of glass. It's a monster headache, later. Tankange can be poor. The one I have had a stainless tank welded with ordinary welding rods... can you imagine a mistake of that stupidity??? I had to see it as a reality.... it was with mine. I've got one, a Union 36, and still like it, now 15 years on (30 years old). It really can cope with the big seas, and they are very pretty indeed. Beware of short-cuts they make though. Some of them are shocking.  

The Custom 46 is a good boat ... http://www.customyachtbuilder.com/index2.html Cabots are as well... http://www.yachtsmiths.com/cabot38ph.htm  

Can you find used Amels for around $500K? I was on a new one two years ago in Miami, and if I just HAD to spend a cool million on a new boat, I'd pick the Amel 54.  

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    Still seeking more elbowroom, Bluewater bought an adjacent outboard service business and patched it onto their footprint. Chris started calling the group of three properties the Bluewater Yachting Center—which envisaged the future he was building—but with the Hampton Yacht Club next door, there wasn't much more room.

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    Some of the most popular Bluewater Yachts models now listed include: 51 Coastal Cruiser, 41, 5200, 680 Custom Series and Coastal Cruiser 54. Bluewater Yachts models are available through yacht brokers, dealers, and brokerages on YachtWorld. The listings encompass a range of years, starting from 1982 models up to 2002.

  13. Crafting Excellence in Boating

    Paul Skilowitz Founds Bluewater Sportsfishing Boats. 1998. The Bluewater 2550 Releases. 2001. The Bluewater 25T Releases. 2901 Industrial Avenue 3 Ft. Pierce, FL 34946. 772- 464-3735. [email protected]. menu. Home About us Bluewater Merch Community Marine Partners Events Contact Us.

  14. Brunswick Discontinues the Maxum Brand

    line on the market in the U.S. which sold 1,979 boats in the same period. Rinker, which had about the same price point as Maxum, ranked 13th with 1,836 new boats registered. The Brunswick Corp. is the largest builder of recreational boats in the world. In May 2008, Brunswick announced it would cease production of its Bluewater Marine

  15. Bluewater Yachts, Mora, MN

    No phone number on the website, nothing comes up in the online yellow pages other than "Blue Water Pumping." When a company like that shuts down it usually leaves some kind of trail. I did find one local newspaper reference that a visiting group form Norway visited "Bluewater Boats" in Mora, MN in 2012 so maybe they're still alive on some basis.

  16. How is the quality of Bluewater boats?

    Blue Water is now owned by Kal Kustom boats, same folks that own Reinell. The two come off their plant in Oregon, and are still in business. The current boats usually share the same hulls at the Reinell boats, or use older molds. I see a number of Blue Water boats here in the NW. I'm not sure when they were bought by Kal Kustom.

  17. Our Story

    Over 50 years later, Bluewater is still owned and operated by its founding partners and is one of the largest privately held, and financially sound, yacht dealerships in the world. Bluewater has literally been built on a backbone of service and a commitment to always put the customer first. The founders and partners of Bluewater are not just ...

  18. Reflecting on a Lifetime of Leadership

    As we turn the page to a new, unwritten chapter in the Bluewater Yacht Sales story, we'd like to take a moment to reflect on the traits of Bluewater's founder, Curry Hall III (known to many of us as Chris Sr.). His lifetime of leadership with Bluewater spanned over 54 years and has touched many lives, and cemented a legacy of vision and ...

  19. Discontinued Boat Manufacturers List

    Discontinued Boat Manufacturers List List of Boat makers that are out of business according to the USCG. At the time of this writing in 2021, there are 11,700 Discontinued Boat Manufacturers in the USA and Canada. This list was provided by the official HINDecoder.com website and shows some information of the top states and cities where boat manufactures have gone out of business since the USCG ...

  20. Who still makes a Bluewater boat?

    Who would you put on your short list of Bluewater boats still being manufactured today? Here is some general criteria: protected rudder, lead keel, good tankage, two double berths (not counting settee), less than 50 feet. ... Grow Your Business; When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our ...

  21. BLUEWATER 60 by BLUEWATER YACHTS

    A luxury bluewater yacht specified to your dreams. Classic, elegant lines with contemporary touches and a proven bluewater yacht pedigree. A luxury bluewater yacht specified to your dreams. Classic, elegant lines with contemporary touches and a proven bluewater yacht pedigree. top of page. Home. 56. 60. Videos. Brokerage.

  22. The Hull Truth

    10-18-2023 04:05 PM. Bluewave factory shut down. Heard the factory is shut down, anyone have details? chasfish. 10-19-2023 04:37 AM. There's some insight on the Blue Wave Owners facebook page. A couple of dealers claiming the plant has simply been 'idled for a while so dealers can work through a backlog of boats' while a couple of former ...

  23. Viking Yachts Celebrates 60 Years of Success

    Today, Bluewater team members frequently visit the Viking factory in New Gretna, and the Valhalla factory in Mullica, New Jersey for facility tours, educational sessions, and of course to drop in on customers' boats under production. In addition to overseeing the construction of many customer orders, Bluewater and Viking's partnership extends to a long-standing commitment of ordering many ...

  24. Video Shows Joan Collins Has 'The Best Legs in the Business ...

    Fans react to the the leggy look Joan Collins put on display in a new yacht video. Above, Collins attends the Variety Club Showbusiness Awards at The Londoner Hotel on April 28, 2024, in London ...

  25. Are private banks still worth it?

    "Private banking [evokes] mega yachts and sparkling seas and I'm sure it exists for the people who are in that category," he says. "But it's required by people who have much more modest ...