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Hanse 400: popular modern performance cruiser

  • Duncan Kent
  • July 27, 2021

Duncan Kent takes the Hanse 400 for a sail and discovers that this popular modern performance cruiser is quick and powerful but easy to handle

Hanse 400

A tall mast and generous sail area make the Hanse 400 quick and powerful. Credit: David Harding

Product Overview

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Voted European Boat of 2006, the J & J-designed, Hanse 400 still has all the attributes of a modern performance cruiser.

Founded in 1993, Hanse became Germany’s second largest production sailing yacht builder after extending its Greifswald site in 2005, and now produces 750 yachts annually including the Moody, Dehler and Privilege brands.

Since 1999 all Hanses have been designed by Judel and Vrolijk, a renowned team of performance yacht designers with America’s Cup heritage.

Hanse yachts aren’t just modern flyers, they have all the comforts needed for extended cruising as well.

Galley on the Hanse 400

Plenty of galley space with lockers and a top-loading fridge. Credit: Duncan Kent

The look of the 400’s interior isn’t particularly to my liking, with its sharp edges and unusual design statements, such as pea-green Plexiglass panels, but you can’t fault the layout’s flexibility and the intelligently thought-out key areas such as the well-appointed galley and heads.

Where the Hanse 400 scores over other more conservative performance cruisers is in the sailing stakes.

With dinghy-like performance, she’s just so easy to drive that you positively long to go out sailing alone, just to prove you can.

I love the idea that a 40ft yacht can be sailed quite safely single-handed – it gives you a fantastic confidence boost, meaning you’re more likely to take her out and sail her every chance you get.

Design & constructions of the Hanse 400

The Hanse 400 is sleek-looking with plumb ends, low freeboard and a long waterline.

With shallow underwater sections and a broad beam, they were designed to be quick and easily handled, and strong enough to cope with rough conditions offshore.

The hull is reinforced using a rigid floor framework and laminated foam stringers, while weight is minimised by incorporating a balsa core above the waterline.

For a little more money, the Hanse 400 was also offered in epoxy (400e), which not only reduced its displacement over the polyester/vinylester model by being a thinner layup and having foam sandwich below the waterline, but also increased its impact strength and flexibility, and virtually eliminated any risk of osmosis.

The Hanse 400 is unashamedly modern.

The high-gloss finished furniture is all a bit square and slab-sided, with stainless steel grab rails and the occasional green Plexiglass panels.

When buying from new, Hanse offered up to 16 different layouts and 99 options, so few ended up identical.

The interior is split into three design sections, each of which had several different available styles, such as a choice between one or two aft cabins.

The long, straight saloon settees make good sea berths and there’s stowage underneath.

Headroom is a generous 1.95m/6ft 5in, but the table will only seat four in comfort.

The chart/coffee table option comprised a small table between two seats on the saloon’s port side with shallow stowage inside for folded charts.

Chart Table on the Hanse 400

The chart table is small with limited instrument space. Credit: Duncan Kent

The locker containing the electrical panel has limited instrument space, which isn’t ideal as the doors have to be closed at sea.

The sensible alternative is to go for the straight settee, use the saloon table for passage planning and house most of the sailing and navigation instruments up in the cockpit.

The galley is large with plenty of stowage in numerous lockers and drawers, a full-size gimballed cooker with oven and a voluminous top-loading fridge plus a separate, smaller drinks cooler below.

Opposite, the heads is roomy with 1.83m/6ft headroom and separate shower stall with seat, under which are housed all the pumps and filters.

All the seacocks are neatly arranged and clearly labelled beneath the sink.

The aft cabins boast 1.98m/6ft 6in-long berths, 1.88m/6ft 2in headroom, a dressing area with seat and a large clothes locker.

The portside cabin has a slightly wider berth than the starboard one and is adjacent to the aft heads.

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Beneath the port berth is the calorifier, while the fuel tank is under the starboard berth.

Hull sides could be smartly wooden panelled for extra insulation.

The forecabin had the most layout options and was clearly intended to be the owner’s cabin.

Though long, in the pullman version the offset berth is only 1.00m/3ft 3in wide, which is narrow for a double.

The vee-berth option gives you more, but you lose the locker forward.

The choice then was whether to have a second wardrobe, a small ensuite heads/shower, or a desk/dressing table.

On deck & under way

The cockpit is wide and spacious, with straight seats cutaway around the large single wheel.

Initially, the transom had an open gate as standard; later a ‘drop in’ one became optional.

Either way, a fold-down transom platform provides room for showering and boarding from a dinghy.

Stowage is good, although better in the single aft cabin model, which has a full-depth cockpit locker to starboard.

The Hanse 400 has a 150mm-high companionway threshold and, cleverly, the one-piece Plexiglas washboard stows conveniently on top of the sliding hatch cover.

The mainsheet track is on the coachroof as standard and its sheet, together with all the other lines, are led back to the cockpit via neat rope garages.

Cockpit of Hanse 400

The wide and spacious cockpit makes it a comfortable cruiser. Credit: Andrew Pickersgill

A mainsheet across the cockpit, just forward of the wheel, was optional and popular with racers or those regularly cruising shorthanded, but it did mean sacrificing the fold-up cockpit table.

Clear access along the side decks is enhanced by the inboard shroud plates and genoa tracks, although the handrails are tokenistic.

The toe rails are a solid alloy extrusion with integral fairleads, and all six cleats are a good size and well positioned.

The foredeck is clear of obstructions, the anchor chain being fed under the locker lid to a windlass below decks.

The chain locker is absolutely vast and able to hold an armful of fenders as well as 80m or more of chain.

The single bow roller is offset to clear the bowsprit and to enable the forestay to be attached well forward, thus allowing space to have the largest jib possible.

Rig & Sails

The Hanse 400 sports a high-aspect, 9/10ths fractional rig with twin spreaders and noticeable pre-bend.

Her backstay bifurcates above the cockpit and has a powerful six-part adjuster, while her standing rigging is discontinuous.

She comes with a fully battened, slab-reefed mainsail and lazyjacks.

This, plus her self-tacking jib and primary winches right beside the helm, makes short tacking in confined spaces simple, even single-handed.

For lighter airs there was an optional 140% gennaker, using the tracks and travellers already provided, and downwind a large asymmetric can be set on the short, retractable bowsprit supplied with the gennaker kit.

The Hanse 400 has a tall mast and generous sail area, making her a quick and powerful boat, despite the relatively small headsail.

Close reaching, she is well balanced and quick, pointing high thanks to the tightness of the jib sheeting angle and ploughing her own groove with little or no input required from the helmsman to keep her on course.

A little further off the wind and she truly flies, with the log remaining above 8 knots in a constant Force 4 plus.

The Hanse 400 moored in Italy

Over Hanse 400 yachts have been sold since launch in 2003. Credit: Andrew Pickersgill

The rod-link steering is light but sensitive, providing plenty of feedback, and the helming position is excellent, offering a clear view forward over the low-profile coachroof.

Her streamlined underwater profile results in little wake and swift, but effortless tacking through 75° or so with little loss of momentum.

Under power, the standard 40hp Yanmar diesel provides plenty of oomph for quiet, economical cruising, while spinning so deftly about her keel that manoeuvring into tight marina berths without a bow thruster is a cinch.

Fuel capacity of 140 litres is a bit limiting, however.

Hanse Yachts Owners’ Forum: www.myhanse.com

Owners’ Experience of the Hanse 400

S/Y Dashzani (2011, HN 814)

Andrew (54) and SWade (49) Pickersgill bought Dashzani , a three-cabin model, new at the Southampton Boat Show.

They added composite wheels, a bimini/cockpit tent, a Flexifold prop and extra anchor chain.

They’ve since replaced the lighting with LEDs, installed a new battery charger and added 300W of solar panels plus a battery monitor.

Recently, they’ve fitted a second chart plotter and instrument repeater at the chart table as well.

They’ve had a few minor faults, such as nav light failures, defective wind transducers, a faulty skin fitting and a leaking engine oil seal, but nothing structural other than beefing up the boom vang fitting.

SWade Pickersgill helming her Hanse 400, Dashzani

The low profile coachroof gives the helm excellent visibility. Credit: Andrew Pickersgill

Andrew says: ‘I have sailed all my life and spent more than 20 years chartering in the Solent, West Scotland or the Med with my wife. After buying this, our first yacht, we spent four years cruising the UK south coast, northern France and the Channel Islands, before giving up work to sail. We joined the ARC Portugal across Biscay and then carried on down to the Med, where we spent three seasons cruising Corsica, Italy, Sardinia, Sicily and Greece, before basing ourselves now on Menorca in the Balearics.

‘Dashzani is surprisingly quick under sail once the wind reaches 10 knots. The self-tacking headsail makes tacking a doddle, but the large mainsail needs reefing at around 16 knots true wind. She is well balanced and her helm light, making handling easy for a couple, but she doesn’t like light winds or beating into short choppy seas. In the past, racing crews have commented “It’s almost like helming a dinghy”, although not now with all our liveaboard kit onboard.

‘Downwind is fun, especially with the Parasailor spinnaker. Our fastest recorded speed is 14 knots, with 30 knots of wind behind us.

‘Though I’ve not sailed her single- handed, it shouldn’t be a problem and the bow thruster certainly makes manoeuvring under power easier.

‘We love the comfort and usability and, having lived onboard for 10 months of the year for five years, find her ideal for two people cruising. There’s ample room in all cabins and the cockpit tent provides excellent entertaining space. The transom platform extends the deck, making her feel much larger and providing almost step-free access when moored stern-to.

‘If travelling further afield we would prefer a larger battery bank to accommodate a freezer and water maker. However, the impact on storage space would probably steer us towards a larger yacht. ‘Being able to use her for extended periods has allowed us to enjoy her more than we could have imagined. Dashzani has ticked all the boxes (and more), from winning silverware in the Solent to sipping martinis on deck in the Med’.

S/Y Grey Goose (2005, 400e)

Owner, Mark Johnson, says, ‘My wife and I bought Grey Goose as second owners in 2012 and she has been exceptional. I’ve sailed 12,000 miles in other boats but the 3,000 miles in her have been the best. Our best 24-hour run so far is 187 miles crewed, and I have nearly equalled that solo.

‘When we bought her, she had a suit of rather aged Dacron sails, including a 130% genoa and self-tacking jib. They survive to this day, however a new offshore set has replaced them, providing a significant increase in performance. An asymmetric was an early upgrade for cruising, plus we added a spinnaker pole and track, though they’re mainly used for poling-out headsails as we rarely have sufficient crew to fly the spinnaker. After heavy weather experience, she now has a trysail and storm jib on an inner forestay too. Though the self-tacker and third reef are great high into the 30-knot wind range, I’d like to be able to change down a further gear when things get truly interesting!

The Hanse 400, Grey Goose

Owner Mark Johnson finds it easy to sail Grey Goose solo. Credit: Mark Johnson

‘My joy is sailing Grey Goose single-handed, which is ridiculously easy. One powered primary winch enables swift mainsail hoisting, the other controls the mainsheet while simultaneously helming. She has a big rig for a 40ft boat – 108m² (1,163sq ft) upwind with the genoa hoisted. The single-line reefing is simple to use too, although you do end up with a copious amount of line in the cockpit. ‘Like all high freeboard designs, berthing in unfavourable winds can be awkward, although I sailed her happily for four years without a bow thruster. When we did add one, together with a Featherstream prop, the two were a great upgrade for slow speed manoeuvres under power.

‘ Grey Goose makes a great second home. My wife loves her and I’m pleased to say, on the occasional trip with crew, they’ve also found the accommodations comfortable. Build quality is great; after 16 years there are some gelcoat stress cracks, but they’re only in non-cored deck areas and are mostly ‘wounds’ inflicted by crewmembers dropping winch handles or similar. The epoxy hull is very sound and strong. We did get an issue with the fairing covering the cast iron section of the keel, but that was lobster pot impact induced!

‘The internal woodwork has held up very well but she is getting a mid-life rig refurb and upgrade this year. It will, however, leave the rig stronger for future Atlantic crossing plans. After eight years I still don’t hanker after another boat. She’s the perfect fit for us as a cruising couple and a good balance of initial cost, versus passage making capability and running costs.’

What the experts say about the Hanse 400

Nick Vass, Marine Surveyor B,Sc B,Ed HND FRINA MCMS DipMarSur YS

www.omega-yachtservices.co.uk

The Hanse 400 had a conventional GRP hull made from polyester resin, strand fibreglass matting and woven fibreglass cloth, stiffened by a foam sheet sandwich core.

The 400e had a more sophisticated composite hull that was built using epoxy resin and glass fibre cloth pre- impregnated with epoxy resin which was cured under pressure provided by a vacuum-bagging technique.

This process allows the same foam-core sandwich stiffening material to be bonded onto the inside of the hull under pressure, which results in a better bond and helps reduce the possibility of delamination where the layers of the laminate come apart.

Nick Vass

Using epoxy instead of polyester resin also reduces the possibility of osmosis, which is just as well as I have found osmotic blistering on smaller Hanse yachts.

Dry laminate can also be an issue.

This is where not enough resin was used, resulting in the glass fibre matting being left starved of resin, making the structure weak.

Using pre-preg techniques helps ensure that the resin-to-fibre ratio is precise and that the resin infuses all of the fibres without missing patches.

The epoxy hulls were lighter as less resin was used. This is because only just enough resin needs to be mixed in.

Hanse has never made any pretence that it is anything other than a builder of modestly priced yachts and so one must expect a little cost-cutting.

Deck mouldings can be thin, but they represent good value, are good looking and are fun to sail.

A Hanse 400 was fitted with a Jeffa rudder, which had aluminium stocks. I find the stocks to be corroded and rudder post bushes can wear prematurely.

However, many German- and Scandinavian-built yachts also use this make of rudder.

The stock can become pitted just above the blade, sometimes due to galvanic corrosion caused by dissimilar metals in contact with each other.

Conventional antifouling contains a lot of copper as a biocide, which also reacts with the aluminium.

The trick is to insulate the stock with epoxy resin or use a copper-free antifouling such as International Trilux, which is designed to be applied to aluminium saildrives.

Ben Sutcliffe-Davies, Marine Surveyor and full member of the Yacht Brokers Designers & Surveyors Association (YDSA)

www.bensutcliffemarine.co.uk

The Hanse 400 and 400e didn’t have a long production run; the ones I’ve surveyed were all ex-charter fleet based abroad.

Commercial operation will often notch up high engine hours and wear to sails and running rigging, so check the yacht’s history and consider instructing a surveyor.

The Yanmar is a pretty bomb-proof engine but, like all modern engines, they do need regular servicing. Be aware of tachometers that have been replaced or frequently lose their digital readouts.

Ben_Sutcliffe-Davies

Ben Sutcliffe- Davies has been in the marine industry for over 40 years as a long- time boat builder, has been surveying craft for over 20 years and is a Full Member of the YDSA.

One of my clients had a yacht with 500 declared engine hours; on research it had over 4,500 hours.

The Hanse has a sail drive, so check when the unit’s hull sealing ring was last replaced and that the oil has no contamination.

Poor or a lack of servicing of the gearbox drive cones can often lead to a replacement unit so check servicing records.

Like Nick, I have also had issues with pitted rudder stocks and tubes.

The cockpit deck finish was teak and many yachts will now need this replacing, especially those used for charter abroad as boat decks are often washed down with a pressure washer!

As with many modern cruisers, laminates are much thinner than some older builds.

Although they are generally quite reliable, if damaged, items like the keel matrix do need proper inspection.

Alternatives to the Hanse 400 to consider

Bavaria cruiser 40.

Bavaria Cruiser 40

The steering is light and responsive. Credit: Bavaria Yachts

Until it launched the Cruiser series, Bavaria yachts were known for their practicality.

In 2009, Bavaria employed BMW to give their yachts a more modern look, inside and out, with help from the Farr design team.

The result was a notable improvement in sailing performance with ‘love it or loathe it’ contemporary styling.

Construction methods remained broadly the same. The hand laid-up hulls continued to combine waterproof isophthalic polyester resins with chopped strand and woven matting, reinforced in high load areas with unidirectional Kevlar rovings.

They also had a rigid GRP/foam floor frame and Airex foam sandwich above the waterline.

The cockpit is roomy and functional, with high coamings and a large drop-leaf table.

The twin-wheels allow easy access to a large, fold-down stern platform, ideal for deck showering or for boarding.

Unlike the bigger C45, 50 and 55, the C40 only had a single, deep spade rudder instead of twins.

The two-point, double-ended mainsheet arrangement works well, but the lack of a track limits the ability to drop the traveller down to leeward in gusty conditions.

The jib sheet tracks are on the coachroof, which keeps the sheeting angle tight, but the sheets lead to winches mounted forward in the cockpit and cannot, therefore, be reached by the helm.

Cockpit of the Bavaria Cruiser 40

The cockpit is spacious with a drop-leaf table. Credit: Bavaria Yachts

Below, a two- or three-cabin layout were available, the latter sporting two spacious aft double cabins with shared heads, as well as a decent owner’s cabin forward with optional ensuite heads.

The linear galley isn’t ideal for cooking under way, but the seatback to the central bench provides a bum support.

Six can dine in comfort around the saloon dinette.

A good-size, forward-facing nav station is opposite the rear heads and close enough for easy communication with the crew.

Under sail she is spritely and responsive.

The steering is light and positive, and requires little effort to keep on course, even when pushed hard.

The hull cuts a much cleaner swathe through the water than its predecessor, meaning less slamming and spray when beating to windward, and off the wind she flies with an asymmetric chute set on the optional bowsprit.

Dufour 405GL

Dufour 405GL

The open cockpit has deep coamings and a fixed table. Credit: Jean-Marie Liot

Winner of the European Yacht of the Year 2010 (family cruiser category) the Dufour 405GL was penned by Italian designer, Umberto Felci.

With full-length Twaron-reinforced stringers, criss-crossed by strong frames that spread the rig loads down to the keel, and injection-moulded, balsa sandwich decks, the Dufour 405GL is very robust.

Below, the Dufour has a traditional warm and woody interior with one or two aft cabins.

The former has an L-shaped galley aft and a chart/coffee table between two saloon seats, the latter a linear galley and forward-facing navigation station.

Both layouts have two heads with an ensuite forecabin and the headroom is excellent. In the cockpit, a sturdy drop-leaf table and grab bar helps the crew to move around safely under way, while the wide transom gate and drop-down swimming platform makes boarding easy.

Her generous beam provides wide decks and the foredeck is clear thanks to a recessed windlass and cavernous chain locker.

A short alloy bowsprit can be added for an asymmetric sail.

Like the Bavaria C40, she has twin wheels but only a single spade rudder.

The helmsman has easy access to the primary winches but all other sail controls and halyards are on the coachroof.

Her 9/10ths fractional rig came with semi-battened mainsail, though in-mast furling was popular. Her stem is almost plumb and she sports a long waterline.

Her deep, semi-balanced rudder offers a good grip on the water and, with the bulk of her cast iron ballast at the bottom of her keel, she remains stiff in wind.

Under sail, she is delightfully well-balanced and fun to handle, especially once trimmed up. On a close reach she’ll top 8-knots easily.

Delphia 40.1+

A Delphia 40.3

The Delphia 40.3 had a two or three cabin option. Credit: Mathias Otterberg

The Polish-built Delphia 40 went through several marques, but the differences between the models are fairly insignificant.

All had deep, shoal or swinging centreboard options. Delphias are built to Germanischer Lloyd’s exacting quality standards and are conventionally laid up by hand from solid polyester laminate below the waterline.

With a choice of a 2/3/4 cabins the Delphia 40.3 provides comfortable accommodation for extended periods.

The raised coachroof has large windows, and the 3/4 cabin models include a dinette and linear galley, whereas the latter is larger and U-shaped in the two-cabin version.

The saloon is pleasantly woody, without being gloomy, and headroom is 1.98m/6ft 6in.

The forward-facing chart table is small but adequate, with a hinged instrument console and a tray for plotting gear.

There are two heads, both of which have generous headroom and full moulded inserts.

The ensuite owner’s cabin forward boasts a generous V-berth with ample dressing area and stowage.

The berths in the aft cabins are equally roomy.

In the four-cabin version an extra twin-bunked cabin takes the place of the forward head, with the displaced head moving to the other side in place of the dressing area.

The Delphia’s cockpit is spacious, with comfortable seatbacks.

The Delphia 40.3’s shallow underwater sections, moderate beam and generous waterline make her quick and agile for her size, with no impact on stability.

She tacks briskly, even in light airs, and accelerates back up to speed in seconds. She tracks well off the wind with little to no helm adjustment needed.

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Beneteau vs Hanse: Which Is Better?

Beneteau vs Hanse: Which Is Better?

The Beneteau Boats Company is a boatyard company that first started near the water in Quai des Greniers, France. It was founded in 1884 by Benjamin Beneteau, and after two generations, it is currently headed by Jerome de Metz. What started as a Dundee and lugger fishing boats-making factory became one of the best boatyards we know with over 15 different boat models produced for sport, fishing, and luxury cruising. They employ around 7,500 loyal employees whose dedication and dreams to make sailing better with avant-garde innovations, one day at a time. Today, apart from various other boatyards from where they manufacture vessels internationally, their France boatyard is now at St-Gilles-Croix-de-Vie. 

Hanse Yachts used to be one small boatyard down in the Baltic in the city of Greifswald. In 1990, this boatyard was founded by Michael Schmidt, and today, it is headed by their Chairman Gert Purkert. Up to 1,500 employees work for Hanse Yachts under their different subsidiaries. They offer brands of monohulls under Hanse, Dehler, and Moody brands. Their catamaran carries only the Privilege brand. Also, Fjord and Sealine are the usual brands that their motorboats are marketed under. Since its inception in 1990, Hanse Yachts has been selling around 600 boats annually to satisfied customers. A huge part of the credit goes to the designers who are masters of customized designs; Patrick Banfield, Bill Dixon, Judel, and Vrolijk and Co., even Marc Lombard, a very renowned name in boat designing.

Beneteau vs Hanse – Overall Built Quality

Because Hanse Yachts are made by hand, their sales output might seem low (just over 13,000 since 1990), but they definitely give out a high level of customization and satisfaction to their customers; they have a reputation for building that is well deserved. When seeking to buy a Hanse boat, a selection of layout will be provided for you to allow you to mix and compose your favorite sections to your taste. You get to create your ideal layout, galley, and heads combination as you would like it and also determine the number of aft cabins you’d prefer in your own boat. This means you are practically making every design decision on the interior deck of your boat. Upholstery options boast over 40 different choices for your saloon seating, and you can choose a Hull wrap for your hull finish or just pick from the other numerous hues made available.

Hanse Yachts use either Dacron, Fast Cruising Laminate, or High-Performance Membrane for making their sailcloths, and you can either choose which works for you or let the company experts decide. For the hull, epoxy vinyl-ester resins, huge architectural subframes, carbon re-enforcements, and fully laminated bulkheads are employed to create hulls of great strength that will support all the inputs that any customer might add. Watertight bulkheads are also added as part of blue water features for bigger vessels as a safety measure. The keel is connected to the hull by bolting it up through the subframe and aluminum plate. Finally, carbon-reinforced chainplates are relied on to ensure that the rigging loads and stresses are evenly spread throughout the architectural subframe and the hull.

According to Beneteau boatyard engineers, they make use of resin and balsa core to make their hull. Resin is an ingredient that is more like a constant but the secret lies in the balsa core that they use. This balsa core permits the reduction of resin quantity in each hull constituent while still maintaining the desired structural strength. Reduction of resin constituent in the hull helps achieve less overall vessel weight. Alpi Wood is always the wood of choice in the Beneteau boatyards; they are of different varieties, colors and are totally renewable. The use of large-scale computer-assisted design programs to finely detail interior work like spray-finish sets and cutting provides the Beneteau boats with infinite options and no limitations when it comes to interior designs.

Personally, I believe that  Hanse boats are built better than Beneteau boats, but there are other factors to consider as well.  

Hanse or Beneteau

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Sailing Performance

Sailing couldn’t be better with these customized Hanse Boats with their self-tacking jib, which is a standard. Now, you don’t even need to touch any sheet or winch in this short-handed sail design; only helm handling is required to get the job done. Well-balanced rudders guarantee smooth maneuvering, and there is a feature that is useful for smooth maneuvering, especially (but not exclusively) during mooring, the direct wash from the propeller over the rudder. The thrusters are innovatively retractable, and this ensures an almost completely smooth underwater line, thereby boosting overall performance. The hull design (made by the Judel and Vrolijk and Co.) adds to the grace of the Hanse yacht performance.

Beneteau boats come with a deep-lead bulb keel end to retain their gravity no matter what weather, sea, or storm they find themselves in at any time. These keels reduce drag. There is no easy way of defining a Beneteau boat in terms of performance due to their vast range of boat models. But, if we were to look into the Oceanis 46.1, which has a balance on cruising and sporting features, we’ll see that the 46.1 is fitted with an extra-long mast which gives it extra credit in sail usage. It comes with a flat deck genoa furler and a German mainsheet system; both features enable this boat to be sailed short-handed.

The furling mast, self-tacking jib, and the set of halyards and plays brought on a single winch at each helm station can make sailing possible with only a small crew or a couple. Under the right circumstances and good sailors, a 16-knot speed can be achieved on this boat.

 Judging by the dope designs that these two companies continuously add to their vessels, it is safe to say that they can both perform well in good and foul weather. Their general sailing performance, as aforementioned, is some of the features that make them able to take upon the worst of seas and without too much stress on their skippers and crew.

>>Also Read: Beneteau vs. Catalina

The Hanse 458 is an overall 46 feet boat. This makes it ideal for comparing comfort levels with the 46-foot Beneteau Oceanis 46.1. The Hanse 458 has a large cockpit that can accommodate a large family to live aboard. The interior also has a sail-locker at the bow to store different things in case of a long voyage. There is a dining table in the saloon that can seat 8 people without discomforting any of them, and for extras, a couch that can seat 3-4 people. It also comes with a standard 2 heads for convenience. There is a variation of this Hanse boat that allows 2 cabins in the aft.

The Oceanis 46 interior design from start to finish is crafted by the Nauta Design. Mahogany Alpi Wood lines it, and there are options of lighter or darker shades of wood available. With a dining table in the U-shaped saloon that can seat about 10-12 people, this is a boat fit for a mini-extended family to lounge in for a few weeks of cruising. There are variations of one aft or two aft cabins available, all with headroom of 6’9″, more than enough for an average-sized male. There is only one head available on this version of the Oceanis, although other options can be obtained if the purchase is to be customized; however, it is rare.

Beneteau vs Hanse – Conclusion

Hanse Yachts are home to extensive design and customization, and owing to their hand-designed method of building, it might take a while to complete an order hence their seemingly small output over the years. However, you and I can agree that every one of these boats is sturdy and strong and will be durable because of the human attention each receives. 

Beneteau is unrivaled in industrial boat making with many models under their belt, but indeed, it is a matter of personal choice to decide whether to go with a Hanse or buy a Beneteau. Whatever you choose, may the cruise be forever in your favor.

If you’ve narrowed your choice between Beneteau and Hanse, I would suggest you rent both of the boats for at least a week. That way, you can check first hand which boat fits your needs better. Check out the fit and finish of the woodwork, hardware fittings, overall built quality, etc. Also, look in the corners, behind the lockers, and how the rigging is seated. Again, you won’t go wrong with either Beneteau or Hanse, but you should at least get the one check checks most of your boxes. 

Peter

Peter is the editor of Better Sailing. He has sailed for countless hours and has maintained his own boats and sailboats for years. After years of trial and error, he decided to start this website to share the knowledge.

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Hanse - where do they sit on the quality scale?

  • Thread starter BlueSkyNick
  • Start date 9 Jun 2010

BlueSkyNick

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On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being excellent, where do Hanse sit? Assuming Oyster is 10 ish Swedish boats 8 - 9 Moody 6-7, all IMHO of course. (I wont offend owners of the boats I think are down in the 1-3 range)  

Boreades

Hmm - 9/10 for styling but maybe we need to give them time to establish a reliabilty/quality rating. When I looked at their deck gear, I was worried by the mainsheet traveller being so far forward, away from the cockpit and control by a short-handed crew. But that's just a personal prejudice.  

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Boreades said: Hmm - 9/10 for styling but maybe we need to give them time to establish a reliabilty/quality rating. When I looked at their deck gear, I was worried by the mainsheet traveller being so far forward, away from the cockpit and control by a short-handed crew. But that's just a personal prejudice. Click to expand...

4/5 against the other benchmarks you have given. If you give Oyster 10 then HR / Malo are 11.  

  • 10 Jun 2010

Fr J Hackett

Fr J Hackett

On your scale about 2 to 3  

AIDY

MoodyNick said: On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being excellent, where do Hanse sit? Assuming Oyster is 10 ish Swedish boats 8 - 9 Moody 6-7, all IMHO of course. (I wont offend owners of the boats I think are down in the 1-3 range) Click to expand...

I looked and smaller Hanse - was not impressed with the internals or finish in general - would put it on par with current Bav finishing for 'attention to detail' but I understand they sail well....  

Scillypete

I know someone who own's a 400 did one Atlantic circuit with numerous troubles and on return the surveyor said it was unfit for sea. That was a brand new boat. furniture moving, bulkheads cracked, rusting stainless on arrival in the Canaries and a forestay attachment that was moving. Hanse refused to accept that there was a problem (allegedly)  

Kurrawong_Kid

fmoran said: 4/5 against the other benchmarks you have given. If you give Oyster 10 then HR / Malo are 11. Click to expand...

jhr

jhr said: Nick - you're not selling Fiddler's Elbow, are you? Click to expand...

Blueboatman

On the one hand......As it were. Maybe more. I did read that epoxy built Hanses are available for little more than the fibreglass ones. That does seem a significant step forward and a useful bit of 'future proofing'.  

Having owned a new 400 for just over a year I can say that although I have had a few teething problems I am more then satisfied with my Hanse, The few problems mentioned where quickly dealt with by the dealer. It is a production boat and that is reflected in the quality against the more bespoke models, however it is also reflected in the price  

Talulah

Personally I think it is nice to see most Hanse with a coloured hull. Makes a change from the usual white. I too have third hand reports of problems with them falling apart after longish trips. Probably ok for normal use of a few weeks a year and half a dozen weekends. I was not impressed when I looked down below at the boat shows. Very much an MFI feel. I would rate Bavaria higher. In saying that I have sailed a number of brand new boats in recent years and have to say the interiors are getting worse and worse. The latest, Sun Odyssey 37 will not last one season before it starts to look very tired down below. Quick example: Doors, the edging around the doors is glued on. A fraction of an overlap results in the trim getting caught and broken off.  

Sans Bateau

Sans Bateau

I'd agree that Bav's are better built than Hanse, I have sailed both, however the Hanse (371) did sail very well, I did a non stop Portsmouth to Cork on one. That particular boat, having done a respectable few sea miles in mixed conditions was starting to show her age. The boat at 7 years old, the owner commented recently that my Etap was in far better condition, even being 10 years older. The Hanse has recently been sold as its condition was going to start to get expensive. The boat went abroad. Nick, dont buy one.  

Whilst I agree - it is difficult to pidgeon a brand within a single 1-10 criteria - it is quite clear what Nick is after ... he's after how we would overall rate a Hanse compared to other makes - quite a simple and straight forward question - and he has had some pretty comprehensive answers with little confusion!  

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galadriel said: I'd agree that Bav's are better built than Hanse, I have sailed both, however the Hanse (371) did sail very well, I did a non stop Portsmouth to Cork on one. That particular boat, having done a respectable few sea miles in mixed conditions was starting to show her age. The boat at 7 years old, the owner commented recently that my Etap was in far better condition, even being 10 years older. The Hanse has recently been sold as its condition was going to start to get expensive. The boat went abroad. Nick, dont buy one. Click to expand...
MoodyNick said: On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being excellent, where do Hanse sit? Click to expand...

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